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Dings in clunkers' shiny finish?

Cash for clunkers crossed the finish line Monday, but was it a winner?

That depends on whom you ask, how you ask and even when.

Rolled out July 24, the federal government's new-car rebate program stopped accepting new deals at 7 p.m. CDT Monday, because officials said the $3 billion that Congress devoted to the effort would be exhausted. Auto dealers were given a few more hours — till noon today — to submit their claims because the computer system handling the crush became overwhelmed, the Department of Transportation said.

“A wild success,” the department proclaimed the program. “It has not only helped tens of thousands of consumers purchase new, more fuel-efficient vehicles” — 625,000 rebates claimed as of early Monday — “but has provided a boost to our economy and is helping create jobs at dealers and automakers across the country.”

But the joy is not universal.

Like a freshly waxed hood with bird droppings, cash for clunkers has some blemishes, according to area people involved in the program. And its ultimate stimulus effect on the economy — its main rationale — remains uncertain.

Consider:

** The government has finished processing only a fraction of the clunker deals submitted. Dealers are still waiting for their money on the rest.

“Yes, absolutely, a great program” — assuming that the deals all go through, said Kevin Ryland, general manager of Performance Toyota in LaVista. He said only 19 of the dealership's 140 clunker sales — each representing a $3,500 or $4,500 rebate — were complete at midday Monday.

Ryland said his dealership could stand the wait, but others with tight cash flows might suffer. He voiced hope that the program's end would at least speed government progress against the backlog.

** Used-car dealers and buyers have taken a hit.

“There's been a huge effect on the supply,” beginning when cash for clunkers was just talk in Congress, said Jason Fett, owner of Good Cars 4 Nice People, near 42nd and L Streets. “Our sales have been cut by 50 percent. ... It's hard to get good inventory.”

Like other used-car dealers across the country, he predicted that the market would take time to recover, perhaps one to three years, and said prices would stay higher until it does — an extra burden on consumers who can't afford to buy new.

For example, Fett said, a friend with a sizable family asked him a couple of months ago to look for a Chevrolet Suburban, “but I've been having a heck of a time finding a decent one.” He sees plenty of candidates — waiting to be destroyed on other dealers' lots under the clunker program.

“It is frustrating,” he said. “I'm going to find him a Suburban, but it's going to cost a bit more.”

Moreover, Fett said, used cars and their would-be buyers have suffered a psychological blow, now that a demeaning label has been attached to a certain class of vehicles.

“Nobody likes to drive a ‘clunker,'” he said, and the government has now in effect defined it: a vehicle worth less than $4,500. Buyers used to talk of needing a “hooptie” or a “work car” or a “beater with a heater,” he said, but now other drivers will point and say the c-word.

** Repair shops, which if not for cash for clunkers might be fixing those cars for years to come, also might suffer. But it's probably too soon to see such an effect, and the picture is not so clear-cut, said Gary Jeck, owner of Amtech Auto Care Center, a six-person shop near 48th Street and Giles Road.

“I'm not too worried,” he said, adding that his neighborhood-rooted business has survived 20 years of ups and downs.

Dealerships' repair operations might even benefit from the clunker program because of warranty work on the new cars sold, Jeck suggested.

** The macroeconomics are still murky.

Economists agree that the clunker program has stimulated car sales, and most say those sales are, in effect, borrowed from the future. They are cars that might have been bought next year or the year after but instead are bought now.

So what happens when the future arrives? No economist will give a guarantee, and they gauge the risks differently.

“It is interesting how fast it sold out,” Eric Thompson, who directs the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's Bureau of Business Research, said of the clunker program.

“That says there's some buying power out there. ... There are people who have the capacity to spend if they're inspired,” which is the purpose of stimulus programs, Thompson said. The recovery, he said, should be strong enough to tolerate whatever car sales have been advanced from 2010 and 2011.

Ernie Goss, a Creighton University economist, agreed that the clunker program was stimulating the economy but said that nagging questions remain: Will the sacrificed future car sales really be of negligible effect? What about the used car market? What about charities that rely on donations of old cars?

And, Goss asked, “how much does this cannibalize other retail sales?” Recent numbers, he said, suggest this “is definitely a potential problem” as new car buyers reduce their spending elsewhere.

** The environmental benefits are smaller than the program's officials have trumpeted, both Thompson and Goss said. Although it targeted guzzlers getting less than 18 miles per gallon, the program awarded rebates for as little as a 2 mpg improvement.

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24 Comments

Posted by: What a tragic waste! on 08/25/09 @ 1:32 am:

So sad that people trashed good, working cars with this program, while true clunkers remain on the street. Cars with significant damage, rust, body damage, engine problems and terrible gas mileage in the hands of people too poor to buy a new car are still on the road. The only difference is that now the pool of inexpensive older cars have been destroyed!!

How I wish the cars.gov program would allow poor people with true clunkers that have significant irreparable damage could trade their car in for one of the tens of thousands that have thousands of miles left in them.

The poor were hurt. The rich trashed good cars to buy new ones, which temporarily put money articially into the hands of dealerships. All loss. Much waste! I wish the government would stop the damage to working cars and allow poor people to have them! Now there is more waste in hundreds of thousands of purposely damaged cars going for scrap!

Posted by: Common Sense on 08/25/09 @ 6:27 am:

1. Destroying all these vehicles is wasteful
2. People don't need to get deeper in debt.
3. People shouldn't use government programs unless they need them.

I've given up on the previous generations. Their greed has run us into the ground. We need to send the right message to the kids. Encouraging the use of government programs is not the way to raise a child.

Posted by: Mike on 08/25/09 @ 6:43 am:

Professor Goss and Mr. Thompson are conveniently ignoring the actual results, which show the majority of clunkers have been exchanged for much more efficient cars. Yes, some have only improved marginally, but if the goal was to improve the fuel efficiency of the cars Americans drive, it's been a success.

Posted by: A fact on 08/25/09 @ 7:32 am:

This program was a flop. obamacare will be a bigger flop.

Posted by: dolo on 08/25/09 @ 7:39 am:

Someone provides you a tall sweet glass of lemonade and you manage to turn it into bitter lemon rind. Can nothing please you? If in fact there were nothing being done, the same folks would be screaming from their bitterness. All the prophets and naysayers have no stronger a grasp on what the future will bring than anyone else. They have nothing to offer but negativism.....that's not what this country needs right now. Come on Mr. Goss, and all the rest....give us something positive that needs to be done, other than more tax breaks for the rich!

Posted by: iboughtyouacar on 08/25/09 @ 8:20 am:

Just goes to show that congress will never get it right. They pick and choose the program details (what did your car get when you bought it new instead of what that road hazard is getting now) and threw a majority of us under the proverbial bus to pay for it. Mike is one of those people who state we are ignoring the actual results. The actual results are short lived. The TRUTH is the minority of Americans (625,000 people) bought a new car with the majorities money. It will be interesting to see how many of those 625,000 new cars are repossessed in the next 12 to 24 months.

Posted by: mrdwhsr on 08/25/09 @ 8:50 am:

The $3-billion would have had a greater environmental impact if it had been spent on light-rail and street-car systems. This is proven electric vehicle technology that doesn't need foreign oil to generate power. While not very handy in rural Nebraska and Iowa, it does lure people from cars in many cities including Denver, Portland, Seattle, Phoenix...

Mike ignores the fact that among the leading sellers under Cash 4 Clunkers are the Ford F150, Chevy and Dodge light trucks rated at less than 20 mpg not to mention the energy cost to manufacture a few hundred thousand replacement vehicles that are likely to exceed any savings in improved gas milage.

Posted by: fastshutter on 08/25/09 @ 8:53 am:

The poor are not entitled to my used car! I saved up and made the down payment. I made all 4 years of the loan payments. I paid for all the maintenance during the 10 years I owned the car. The poor did nothing to help me take care of the car, what makes them entitled to it now?

Posted by: Buford on 08/25/09 @ 9:17 am:

I'd like to see the deals where rebates were given for as little as a 2 mpg improvement. Did that happen or are they making that up? The fact is that most were for much greater fuel efficiency. It's also overstating the affects of stealing from future car sales. In some cases, with the $4500 rebate, cars were selling for close to 2/3 of what they were before this program or even less. You could get a PT Cruiser that was selling for $18,000 for about $10,000. That means buyers who would have never, ever been in the new car market were suddenly able to buy a new car.

That's not to mention that much of the $3 billion dollars spent is being put right back into the government's pockets in the form of sales tax on the car and income tax on the overtime spent building the car and from the commission the salesmen gets plus the dealership. But I guess Obama did it so it must be bad. Give me a break. Where was this complaining when Bush was driving the deficit up by record amounts? It was awfully silent back then.

Posted by: clunker on 08/25/09 @ 9:25 am:

@mrdwhsr

You're wrong on that, the vast majority of vehicles bought are passenger cars or category 1 trucks, which would be light trucks. Category 2, like the F150, sales are significantly smaller. Look it up.

Posted by: huh? on 08/25/09 @ 9:27 am:

to mrdwhsr: I don't know where you got your 'facts', but everything I have read has said that the top selling vehicles for CARS were Honda Civic, Toyota Scion and other compact cars. According to the rules of the program, you had to 'increase' the MPG in the vehicle you purchase. The F150's and other trucks you speak of are actually being traded in. So, yes, there are several hundred thousand vehicles with 20 MPG or less removed from the streets.

I know someone who used this program, and while yes, she does now have a car payment, she is saving hundreds per month on repair bills and gasoline. I'm sorry if the auto mechanics have lost her business, but why should she have to suffer any longer?

Posted by: swireader on 08/25/09 @ 10:49 am:

Those that can afford new can buy new. I can afford it, but I choose not too. I'll gladly let somone take the depreciation hit. The problem with this program, is that people will come to expect it, just as they have 0% interest. Next look fo the government to develope a package for people that need a new fridge or a new stove.

Posted by: SF Husker on 08/25/09 @ 10:57 am:

625,000 new cars purchased and this article focuses on the loss of business for used car lots and repair shops? Are you kidding me?

Posted by: Cost Effective on 08/25/09 @ 11:26 am:

Everyday, I drive a 13 year old vehicle which looks brand new and runs great. It's reliable and of much better quality than just about anything rolling off any UAW assembly line today. A really good thing about maintaining and keeping a vehicle long term is, I haven't made a car payment in over 9 years! (You can do a lot of preventive maintenance for the cost of just one car payment.) But the best part about it ... I don't owe the current Administration anything!

Posted by: proudtodriveaclunker on 08/25/09 @ 11:40 am:

Hey Dolo....

How many "poor" people hire other people for jobs? If the "rich" don't get tax breaks they just pass along higher costs to you. Think about it.

So the people that could afford to buy new cars bought them sooner. That puts more money in government's pockets because the license fees are higher than their previous car, they pay sales taxes, and they pay personal property taxes on the new vehicle that is higher than their previous vehicle. They also pay more for insurance than their previous car. Sounds like the government and insurance companies win again.

The program took lots of cars out of the marketplace that would have been great cars for high school kids, college kids, and other less well off people that can't afford new cars. Now everyone will pay more for what's left to buy.

Posted by: norebate on 08/25/09 @ 11:42 am:

There are approximately 251 million passenger vehicles in America. The CARS program has done nothing to improve the average vehicle fuel efficiency by swapping out less than 1 million of them.

This was nothing more than a taxpayer subsidization of the automotive industry. The brand most often purchased in the program, Toyota, really needed the help didn't they? The Obamacrats are going to spend us right into the poor house.

Posted by: jayco on 08/25/09 @ 12:13 pm:

A new business venture ran into unexpected issues? I can't believe everyone is so shocked and appalled.

Show me a new business or stimulus project (gov't OR private) that DOESN'T have any issues, loopholes, or unexpected ramifications.

It's called business. This is not a perfect world. Bottom line this initiative sold a bunch of cars. If American car companies built better cars, the leading sellers wouldn't be Toyota or Honda.

Posted by: ChuckC on 08/25/09 @ 12:19 pm:

The goal of the article was to point out the unintended consequences of this program. If the objective was to put more fuel efficient vehicles on the road then it appears that was accomplished. But...there is a cost. Not only to the taxpayers but to the other types of businesses mentioned. Is it significant? I think the article was pretty clear that for used car dealers it is very significant. To others? That remains to be seen. I'm proud to drive my 15-yr old clunker. My taxes on it are next to nothing and I don't need to carry collision and comprehensive insurance on it anymore. It still looks and runs pretty good. A little maintenance here and there and I expect to be able to drive it for several more years.

Posted by: clickchick on 08/25/09 @ 12:59 pm:

Well, I'm just glad that my old car was totalled last August instead of this August. I had to find a car with just the $3000 that my insurance company gave me to replace the old one.
If that had happened THIS year... the 1996 Camry that I found (and love- it's my favorite car i've ever had) might have been sacrificed for the Clunkers program - and I would have to go into debt to have a car!!!

By the way - My 96 Camry gets 32mpg highway!! But a lousy 25 mpg city.

Posted by: Clunk on 08/25/09 @ 1:15 pm:

What a waste of taxpayer money....

Posted by: click chick on 08/25/09 @ 1:38 pm:

fast shutter - are you for real?

Poor people are not entitled to your car? Since you made the payments - you'd rather see the car destroyed than for someone with a lighter wallet to get a bargain? Sad and weird!

No one is talking about giving poor people cars for free. They're just saying that perfectly good cars shouldn't be destroyed - and taken off the road. It's a real waste.

If a shiny new car is so important to you that you are willing to make car payments - what do you care if the next person to get it - gets it for a reasonable price?
If it bothers you to make car payments - do what the rest of us do - and wait for a sucker to sign up for a new car - wait a few years and buy it used. But now you can't - and neither can other people who don't have a lot of money - because perfectly good cars are being destroyed thanks to the C4C program.

Stupid ... stupid... I didn't vote for this guy!

Posted by: hjhhj on 08/25/09 @ 3:31 pm:

We could have build even another baseball stadium instead with the money!!

Posted by: Program is Lame on 08/25/09 @ 5:29 pm:

People who think Cash for Clunkers is a good program are crazy.

The government is using its own debt to put its people in debt.

Posted by: ChuckC on 08/26/09 @ 12:23 pm:

Should have used the 'Stimulus Package' to provide rebates on numerous things...cars, appliances, TVs, furnaces and air conditioners, lighting, home improvement, tree planting. That would've gotten more of the money in the hands of people very quickly, 'greened' things up a bit and boosted all sorts of businesses. :-) Oh wait...you mean they still could since MOST OF THE MONEY...that money that was such an emergency to allocate...HASN'T BEEN SPENT YET! The CARS program proved one thing...alot of money can be spent and circulated into the economy IF YOU GET IT IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE!

The previous message does not imply that the author was in favor of the Stimulus Package or CARS program.

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